Humm ...
I'm dont speak swedish :? however i have a question about shamanism and your forum is the only one i've found so far to ask my question.

So a question for experienced shaman around :
do you have any experience of talking to other shamans when traveling in the shaman state of consciousness ?

It's an important question because it is about the mapping of the world the shamans are exploring : it could be interesting to build a place in this world where all shamans could meet and talk together - provided it's possible...

Good journey !
:respect:

Hej!

Where do you come from?? Just curious... ;)

And the answer: Yes, I have talked to and I have had contact to other human shamans in the world above.

You can do it - yes. You can travel, so why shouldn't you travel and meet another shaman?

:D

Though the three, various non-world-realyties shamanism talks about, are known for their consistency and functions, they may be experienced, seen, heard, smelled and felt, as differently, as the ones soultravelling for/to them (shamans, if you like). This makes every form of contact with fysical beeings from this world, very hard.
You may interpret a certain phenomena your way, whilst I may do this my way, though the function remains obtained. Our valuations and viewes are individual and doo vary, as does the willingness of those spirits, surrounding us.

We do not see each other in our fysical forms. It is as much a matter of intuition, as it is an issue of trust, to be able to interact, actually communicate, and to actively work together, within a "shaman-world", beeing in a state of ritual meditation, if you like. But it is not impossible, almost nothing is, ey ?
;)

In answer to your question; yes, there have been experiences where shamanizing folk have met eachother in, what Harner labeled, Non Ordninary Reality (NOR)

Even here on this forum, people have (during the fullmoon-excercises) experienced meeting eachother and being able to report back what other people were doing on their journeys. It is remarkable, and healthy information as it underlines the reality of it all. It is not just happening withIN us, but outside of ourselves in a reality coexisting our own.

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In regards to building a place (you mean in NOR or here?) that has also been done, more or less. On a american email-list I participated in a few years back, a sort of "shop" was built in NOR where members of the list could go, and meet with eachother. Sad to say I do not have any of those logs saved today, but I swear: alot of people saw eachother clearly.

Fascinating stuff this.

But now.... to bed!

Hej Solhjulet, VildeHilde, Thomas,
I come from France. I'm presently reading "The Way of the Shaman". I've read some materials about the spiritual realm. I'm interested in Stanislav Grof and the Holotropic Breathwork and will soon read a book about it by Kylea Taylor.

The normal next step for me is to experience the NOR or SSC (Shaman State of Consciousness) and to make a contact with my guardian spirit.
And then a big journey ! w00t

Amazing what "we" do not know about "reality", just AMAZING !

One question : How can you navigate in NOR ? have you got coordinates ?

You navigate by intention. You decide where you want to go, you tell your spirit helper(s) what your intention is, and your spirit helpers take you there.
Or you decide what you want to do, you tell your spirit helpers your intention, and they take you wherever you need to go to get done what you want to get done.

Intention and focus. That´s the key!

And don´t go anywhere and don´t do anything in the otherworlds without intention and you spirit helpers (such as a poweranimal etc.). Those are your steering wheel and your life guard.

Good luck and enjoy!

I have actually some friends - teachers - of mine - which I can contact in the other dimension. Directly. By thought. I just think about them, call them and they understand/know it and answer. And then we can meet - talk - feel - travel together. Meet in NOR. We look like we do here and we can see eachother.
Yes, I know. Sounds crazy - and yes you may not believe it. It's ok.

Greetings
Solhjulet

Welcome caveman! Hope you find something interesting here and perhaps learn some Swedish? :)

What an interesting topic! This is something I would like to do here with us on this forum. A meeting place would be fantastic. Some of us have met in the ordinary reality and we have this forum too which is in ordinary reality but still to some extent mirrors the possibility to meet in the non ordinary reality. If we had a meeting place in non ordinary reality that would make everything even more complete.
I can sometimes see other people in non ordinary reality but the only way I have experienced this in a fully regulated way is through ceremonies like the spirit canoe and drum journeys. After I have been to courses and met people I can see them for a while afterwards if they try to contact me or is just checking up on me. I have also seen runes before someone called me or sent me a letter. So yes, I guess we are always connected to the energi net more or less. Sometimes we open the door and sometimes we shut it but the net is always there.

Welcome to the forum!

//Pathfinder

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